It may seem counterintuitive to listen to podcasts about gruesome murders as a sleeping pill, but Pelayo pointed out that people often hear them in bed — “where they feel safe.”
“For many people, the bedroom is their sanctuary. So they can feel safe hearing these crazy stories… and not feel personally threatened by the story. They have fun with them.
This seems to validate a theory shared by Minnie Williams, the sister of the fruit loops Beth Williams, co-host of the True Crime podcast. “It kind of makes you feel safe because you’re in your bed or your chair or whatever, and you’re listening to something horrible that happened and happened to somebody else and you’re in your space, very safe,” she told BuzzFeed News at their Podcast Row table at CrimeCon. “And so it’s almost kind of like, Well I’m in a little bubble, and this stuff is there.”
Sleep may be more likely if the story is familiar
And then there are cases that are so familiar to true crime fans that they become almost desensitized to the violence – even if the podcast or TV show focuses, say, on a serial killer who raped , tortured and murdered at least 33 men and boys.
“I heard so much about the John Wayne Gacy murders – my mom actually grew up in the area where it happened and everything – so I feel really bad to say that, like, I heard the details so many times that I can kind of put that in the background,” Donnelly, the true Chicago crime fan, said of her ability to nod off over episodes featuring the “killer clown.”
Conversely, Pelayo suggested that people who aren’t true consumers of crime aren’t likely to fall asleep if they go online at bedtime. “Because then it’s a novelty and it’ll keep you awake, because then you’re curious: How’s it going ? But if you’ve heard several when you’re awake, you know the pattern more or less, you know what to expect, you know you can rewind that later. This familiarity is what helps you fall asleep.
You can just pick up where you left off (Dozing off)
Unless they fell asleep out of boredom, most snoozers will pick up where they left off. Katy Sproat, 33, another Keith Morrison Fan Club member, said when she falls asleep in the middle of real crime shows, she usually comes back to watch the end. “My mom watches them too,” she said, “so we end up finishing them. Like, ‘Have you watched this one?’ And like, ‘Half of that…?'”
Some people don’t bother rewinding and go straight to the source to find out the resolution.
Deadline Correspondent Dennis Murphy told BuzzFeed News, “I had a guy at church who said to me, ‘What happened in Arkansas, who killed her?'”
Mankiewicz has the same experience, although he’s skeptical that people are collapsing during DeadlineFriday night’s new episodes (despite evidence to the contrary – for example, I had to watch their really gripping episode of Sherri Papini in four segments because I kept falling asleep). “They’re talking about one of the rehearsals they saw in their bedroom and then fell asleep and they want me to tell them how it ends,” Mankiewicz said.
Correspondent Andrea Canning added: “Yes, and you get a lot [saying], ‘I fell asleep. Where can I watch it? »
Storytelling is also important: it should engage your mind
For fruit loops co-host Wendy Willliams, it’s as much about storytelling and feeling safe as it is about people with soothing voices.
“I feel like it’s really comforting. I hate to say it, but I – when you hear about someone’s worst day, it’s hard to remember what was so terrible in your own life. I feel bad for saying this, but it’s my truth,” she told BuzzFeed News.
“And yeah, it gets you, the storytelling,” she added.
His fruit loops Co-host Beth Williams said: “Personally, I listen to historical documentaries to fall asleep, particularly because of the voice acting. But if it’s too animated, like there’s gunfire or whatever, then I can’t do it.
“I’m interested in history – it’s not that it’s boring,” she added. Instead, “it engages your mind, so you’re not thinking about other things that maybe stressing you out, like tomorrow’s work day, you have to do this for the kids, or whatever. “
“It lets your spirit go inside,” said her sister, Minnie.
Beth Williams agreed. “You’re thinking about something else, and it’s soothing.”
It can be comforting to know that someone is on the case
Donnelly said she suspects people fall asleep because “there’s usually a resolution and you know someone’s on it.”
This was picked up by Minnie Williams. “It’s comforting to know that someone is trying to figure this stuff out, like a forensic person who’s working there on something, you know, that’s making the world a better place. So for me, that’s is also soothing. Like someone cared, you know?
“It’s like there’s a real Batman or Spider-Man,” Wendy Williams said.
So, is it unhealthy to fall asleep in front of real detective series?
Pelayo, who literally wrote a manual called how to sleepsaid it’s normal — and often healthy — to fall asleep to real crime shows and podcasts, especially if they ease circular thinking and help you sleep through the night.
“Throughout history, people have slept in all kinds of unusual ways,” he pointed out, including bedtime stories and the evolution of pillows and mattresses.
“The drive to sleep is so powerful,” Pelayo said, “people fall asleep in conversation and, say, really sleep-deprived people fall asleep at the wheel of their car.”
(That’s not to say it’s dangerous to listen to true crime podcasts while driving — in fact, that’s when a lot of people listen to them, CrimeCon attendees told BuzzFeed. News Driving while drowsy can still be deadly.)
Despite some undeniably disturbing criminal content, Pelayo notes, “People will willingly listen to these recordings and broadcasts because that’s what they know. And I think that’s why it works for them.
“But if a patient says to me, for example, ‘I wake up in the middle of the night, I can’t go back to sleep, my mind is racing,’ then I would discourage them from listening to something like that in the beginning of at night. Instead, I want them to step away from the bedroom to think about things that are on their minds and cause circular thinking.
The most important thing is that people fall asleep and then sleep through the night.
“If you don’t mind the next day,” Pelayo said, “then it’s fine.”