Bfb Da Packman interview: the Michigan rapper behind ‘Free Joe Exotic’

Right in the center of Midtown Manhattan, next to the MoMa, is the Ocean Prime steakhouse. This is an expensive restaurant, perfect for out-of-town businessmen and wealthy suburban families. I’m here with rapper Flint Bfb Da Packman, who tells me it’s his favorite place to eat. He even named a song after him, “Ocean Prime”, assisted by Coi Leray, from Packman’s great album. Fat niggas need love too released in June. “Order whatever you want, my brother. We relax, ”he assures me, as I worry about how much money we’re going to spend.

Stocky and with glasses, Packman just happens to be one of the funniest guys to rap right now. He’s known to throw a vivid snack-themed metaphor in the middle of a verse about sex, or food, or both. He’s already made his mark with an intuitive sense of humor that pairs well with the punchline-focused delivery of Michigan rap. He also has an encyclopedic knowledge of pop culture, making some of his tracks crazy and absurd trivia games.

Last year he had his big luck with “Free Joe Exotic,” a gloriously playful affair that opens with an ominous line: “Trapped all winter, scammed for summer / came to America with drugs in the stomach. ” From there, he riffs on everything from condom hatred to the preference for sleeping with prostitutes, all the while taking the time to create a perfectly placed reference of Toni Braxton.

And when it comes to his lyrics, Packman is both provocative and self-aware, caricaturing himself with words like: “My bitch is about to leave me because I’m built like Patrick / I’m super fast and I’m heavy on the mattress. His twisted sense of humor, when turned inward, manages to deliver something truly refreshing. Rap is a grand genre, so it’s rare that you hear someone being both self-deprecating and dizzying intelligence. INo wonder Bfb Da Packman is one of the internet’s favorite rappers.

Born Tyree Jawan Thomas, Packman grew up in Flint and lived with his mother, brother and stepfather. THELike many residents of Flint, he was affected by the city‘s ongoing water crisis. “We have all been affected by the water crisis. I think my grandmother, I touch wood, is going to have Alzheimer’s disease because of this water, ”he says, before the sense of duty sets in. ” She is always there. I have to get her out.

The city has been affected by a mix of white supremacy and capitalism in all familiar ways. Flint has experienced decades of white flight, urban decadence, and deindustrialization, all of which have turned the once promising city into an oppressed and neglected area. It’s all part of what gave birth to Packman’s dark sense of humor.

As a teenager, Packman was selling drugs like a stampede. It was a necessary source of income, he said, to have identified early. “I was trying to make some money,” he tells me in a neutral tone as we taste our shrimp. After his release from prison following an arrest for drug trafficking, he moved to Houston. despite having left everything he knew behind, the city managed to open his eyes to a wider sense of the world. “When I moved to Houston it was like dammit it was all types of people. Jamaicans, Nigerians, Dominicans, Mexicans. I’ve never met a Cuban before Houston. ”

Fresh out of jail and trying to get by in a new city, he took on an impressive list of odd jobs. Pack was a cook for a while, then he worked in a nursing home. “I am nothing compared to a sixty-year-old black woman from the South,” he recalls. “She’s going to make gravy out of thin air.”

At one point he saw an advertisement for the post office. He applied and got the job. It was the most money he had ever made. “When I first got paid I got the check and thought ‘this is so.’ I had never had that kind of money before, ”he says. “Everyone was looking at me and saying ‘it’s not that much.’ Working for the Postal Service allowed him to use his break time to hone his skills as an MC. “When you are a postman, you are your own boss brother,” he explains. “I trained most of the day. One wonders what happened to all this mail.

More than a viral joke rapper, Packman has proven his appeal in the long run. that of June Fat niggas need love too was a progression on his sound. On the album, Packman constructively uses the familiar attributes of Michigan rap – dark and gloomy pianos and bars suited to a Tracy Jordan joke on 30 Rock (at one point, Packman claims his grandmother has an Only Fans). Under the dirty jokes, however, Packman possesses a crazy personality and a charismatic soul. It rubs off on everyone he works with. Benny the Butcher, for example, can’t help but play with Pack on their “Frenchman” collaboration, making meta jokes about how surprised he is that he hasn’t spent a night with Lizzo yet.

In the same way that rappers like Eminem and Ludacris contrasted the seriousness of their peers at the time, Bfb Da Packman is the lighter side of Michigan rap’s coin. The scene has already captivated fans for several years, even inspiring an entire Lil Yachty project. But for every hand-spun story about the street economy served up by a Babyface Ray or a 42 Dugg, Pack has an equally complex thought about where he might perhaps place his cock. Not all funny rappers are great, but all great rappers are funny.

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